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December 14, 2025

What does it actually take to deploy AI at scale in the energy industry?
In this episode of National Energy Talk, host Mark Stansberry sits down with data² co-founders, John Brewton and Jeff Dalgliesh, to go beyond the hype and explore what real-world AI implementation looks like.
Listen to the full podcast: data² Executives Continue AI Views & Trends
Drawing on 20+ years of oil and gas experience, Jon and Jeff walk through how data² is helping companies like ProFrac Holdings use AI-driven knowledge graphs to connect complex enterprise data -and why that foundation is everything before any AI solution can deliver real value.
Key topics include:
Why tools like ChatGPT and Microsoft Copilot fall short for enterprise-scale AI
Real solutions in action: invoice coding automation, saltwater disposal optimization, and fraud detection
How data governance, security, and industry standards make or break AI at scale
Why the connections between your data matter more than the data itself
If you're in energy, higher education, or any data-intensive industry, this episode delivers a refreshingly honest look at what scalable, trustworthy AI actually requires.
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